If Hindu, be sure to match the character's caste with the holding type. Some time ago - I'm not even sure it was my current ruler - I married somebody off into Bedford. 2. as you cannot build multiple tribal holdings in one county and get crippling penalties for wrong holding type. I'm currently the Petty King of Meath. The more the better. Wrong type of holding in demesne. indefinitely. So all I can build are castles (and still own them)?? So I have to give yet another holding away? Build a city of your own and give it away. 28 total. Ok, so it say upgrade the holding, but says I can't upgrade it because some previous putz put a castle in the lower holding. The biggest penalty, though, is that you're basically spending demesne points for worthless holdings. . 700+. Any help would be appreciated. Any help would be appreciated. My income in that province increased greatly. I build a fort, no problem, I then build a city and I get this message. I'm currently the Petty King of Meath. Years later, my current king inherits the county and now I have the "Wrong type of Holding in Demesne" message. Still super new to this game and I'm in need of some help. To lift the excommunication I gifted the Pope a county (Connact) to raise his opinion of me. makes sense. So should I just spread out my demesne across the entire realm, with few castles here and there, instead of controlling everything. Crusader Kings 2 Taxes, Levy and Laws Taxes There are 3 types of holdings in CK2: Castles are owned by feudal lords Churches are owned by bishops Cities are owned by mayors You are a feudal lord so having a city or a church in your demesne is considered having a wrong type of holding and you get 25% penalty to the holding's base income. Each of these three types have an associated character type; baronies are typically owned by nobles, cities by. My Crusader Kings II guides: The definitive bloodline. So should I just spread out my demesne across the entire realm, with few castles here and there, instead of controlling everything. I build a fort, no problem, I then build a city and I get this message. And how I can change this. It is also possible to see the opinion of an arbitrary character A toward another character B : Right-click on the portrait of character B. 700+. What is the actual penalty for holding these?I just built a city in my capitol county, and it says "Holder is of wrong holding type". . I have de jure claims on Worchester, it was ruled by a prince-bishop since the capital of the county is temple. 2. I don't understand this. Crusader Kings II Expansion Subscription. I am the emperor of Rajastan (currently in northern India) and I built a city and a temple. What is the actual penalty for holding these?They must personally hold a City in that province (a vassal holding it doesn't count). So should I just spread out my demesne across the entire realm, with few castles here and there, instead of controlling everything. Not to mention that holding the wrong holding type means you are responsible for uphgrading. but there are other smaller holding images below. types - castles, cities, temples or tribes. I build a fort, no problem, I then build a city and I get this message. I just built a city in my capitol county, and it says "Holder is of wrong holding type". . They are not the right type of holding. 1. Business, Economics, and Finance. Do I have to give mayorship of this town to one of my vassals? If I do that or don't what are the economic consequenses? I saved for a long time to build this town so I could bring in some more cash. . Ormond is a county without a castle, so when you conquer it you will be ruler of a city. I now have a penelty for wrong demense type. I revoked it for myself and became a count worchester as I believe I am supposed to be. Still super new to this game and I'm in need of some help. #14. . Everything I fight for goes to someone else so people have said to build your own in your own counties. To lift the excommunication I gifted the Pope a county (Connact) to raise his opinion of me. By My Name in forum Video Games Replies: 6 Last Post: 07-02-2012, 06:52 PM "DHCP WARNING - Non-critical field invalid in response. 18. . Alongside intimidating the AI by helping yourself to larger percentages of their troops, you want to make sure none of your vassals are particularly powerful in the first place. . I now get the warning/message "Wrong type of holding in Demesne"; what does that do? It doesn't say what penalties there are. Business, Economics, and Finance. 700+. 700+. I guess it's because the capital is temple and I should put some bishop to rule there, right?So, I'm the king of England. Thread starter Jaol; Start date Feb 26,. . Demesne baronies get military improvements to get a bigger army. . I have de jure claims on Worchester, it was ruled by a prince-bishop since the capital of the county is temple. For example, my capital has 6 slots, all of them belong to different vassals and I don't even seem to have a claim on them (even though I'm the heir, if the current title holder dies and I get it, it will just say "wrong type of holding"). Business, Economics, and Finance. . Studying arcane knowledge lets mages tap into the forces of nature and elements and form them into powerful spells. Bedford has a castle and I'm still tribal. ? Long story short, I was ruling as the king of Ireland but my character had terrible traits and was hated by everyone and was eventually excommunicated, making everyone hate me more. I just finished a war in which I gained my second province, the southern most one on the island of Sardinia. This works well, especially in coastal duchies (extra buildings for cities basically double their tax income). Yxklyx Feb 17, 2016 @ 9:19am. I build a fort, no problem, I then build a city and I get this message. I just built a city in my capitol county, and it says "Holder is of wrong holding type". . With high centralization you can hold a very large demesne. makes sense. makes sense. I've got this notifier pop up - "Wrong type of holding in demesne". So should I just spread out my demesne across the entire realm, with few castles here and there, instead of controlling everything. These holdings provide both income and taxes, and every holding is held by a character. To create the new vassal either nightclick a character and grant them the title, or click the Wrong Type of Holding Pop-Up and rightclick the Holding on the bottom left and press. All but 2 are coastal. I am listed as the holder of the city of Newark, so I keep getting the "wrong type of holding" alert. First thing you need to know is that as a feudal christain lord you can only hold castles without a big penalty, temples and towns are the wrong type of holding. Support. And how I can change this. . These settlements should generally be given to a vassal of the correct type or to a courtier (who will automatically take on the correct type). I have this and I dont know how to fix it. Some time ago - I'm not even sure it was my current ruler - I married somebody off into Bedford. I'm currently the Petty King of Meath. I'm currently the Petty King of Meath. Feb 10, So I was playing the demo earlierand an alert button popped up saying. Ok so I'm completely new to CK2, never played the original. Everything I fight for goes to someone else so people have said to build your own in your own counties. So all I can build are castles (and still own them)?? So I have to give yet another holding away? Build a city of your own and give it away. Still super new to this game and I'm in need of some help. They are not the right type of holding. . Do I have to give mayorship of this town to one of my vassals? If I do that or don't what are the economic consequenses? I saved for a long time to build this town so I could bring in some more cash. Do I have to give mayorship of this town to one of my vassals? If I do that or don't what are the economic consequenses? I saved for a long time to build this town so I could bring in some more cash. 700+. cities. give bonuses to entire realm, in CK2 they used to give bonus even if county was being held by vassal, I've found out by experiment that this is not the case in CK3, to get effects from special building you need to personally own not only the county, but the barony. . Jump to latest Follow Reply. My favourite are counties with 5 holdings, where 4 of them are 2 castles, 1 city and 1 church. I gave. The problem is of course that this isn't the county capital. 2. Bedford has a castle and I'm still tribal. They can become powerful and rebel. g. I revoked a the title of mayor of a main city of a holding from a vassal. It is also possible to see the opinion of an arbitrary character A toward another character B : Right-click on the portrait of character B. . Wrong type of holding in demesne ck2. . No 6-holding. A ruler's is an important part of their demesne. "Wrong type of holding in Demesne" | Paradox Interactive Forums "Wrong type of holding in Demesne" aliebling Feb 15, 2012 Jump to latest Follow Reply What. They are not the right type of holding. Castles are generally most useful for Feudal rulers since they can be held as part of your domain directly. I am the emperor of Rajastan (currently in northern India) and I built a city and a temple. 6: Normandy. Any help would be appreciated. < 1 2 > Showing 1 - 15 of 26 comments Hurodrik Feb 17, 2016 @ 9:00am You are a feudal lord. Either to an unlanded courtier, previously landed vassal or a newly created one through the given holding's menu. And how I can change this. A holding will receive pretty significant tax and levy penalties with the wrong type of ruler. 700+. It includes the vassal's demesne income, liege tax from their own vassals, and trade income. 4 7 comments Add a Comment RandomGenius123 • 4 yr. Still super new to this game and I'm in need of some help. 9/11/2019 This article may contain outdated information that is inaccurate for the current of the game. But hey, you get richer in the future. Wrong Type of Holding When I click on my capital, it no longer has the options to build anything and when i look at the intrigue panel again, it still says adopt feudalism but now I can't do it anymore because it says I need a. I have always looked at counties in CK2 with lots of empty slots as "nice", but I rather have a 4-holding county where all the holdings have been created and some of its buildings have been upgraded to a 7-holding county full of empty slots. Years later, my current king inherits the county and now I have the "Wrong type of Holding in Demesne" message. It's true, in the county I just took, the castle is held by a baron, while the city is held by me. In a separate issue, I have towns/castles that I can't upgrade because it says I don't have Keeps II which I do have. I build a fort, no problem, I then build a city and I get this message. ? Long story short, I was ruling as the king of Ireland but my character had terrible traits and was hated by everyone and was eventually excommunicated, making everyone hate me more. A holding will receive pretty significant tax and levy penalties with the wrong type of ruler. I don't understand this. Years later, my current king inherits the county and now I have the "Wrong type of Holding in Demesne" message. And how I can change this. There are five types of settlements, each with a different set of buildings. I don't understand this. So all I can build are castles (and still own them)?? So I have to give yet another holding away? Build a city of your own and give it away. I revoked a the title of mayor of a main city of a holding from a vassal. Do I have to give mayorship of this town to one of my vassals? If I do that or don't what are the economic consequenses? I saved for a long time to build this town so I could bring in some more cash. Having 2 castles instead would help you a lot more, especially in terms of army size. Your character is always a noble. . I'm currently the Petty King of Meath. If you wish to keep control of the county yourself, or give it to a noble rather then a bishop (which is often something I'd recommend, as ruling over a vassal who holds a county that is either a theocracy or a republic will cost you a -30 opinion hit due to you not being the same government type), all you need to do is gain control of a castle in that county, and it will. 2. Still super new to this game and I'm in need of some help. This dictates which types of holdings they can have in their demesne without having a "wrong holding type" penalty, which gives -75% income to a holding. . I build a fort, no problem, I then build a city and I get this message. Or Tribals don't have castles but Tribes instead. I build a fort, no problem, I then build a city and I get this message. To lift the excommunication I gifted the Pope a county (Connact) to raise his opinion of me. I was playing as. To lift the excommunication I gifted the Pope a county (Connact) to raise his opinion of me. Some time ago - I'm not even sure it was my current ruler - I married somebody off into Bedford. Step3: Give away the. Tribalism is an early form of government, and one of three playable non-feudal government types in CK2 (the other two being merchant republics and nomadism . So, I'm the king of England. Bedford has a castle and I'm still tribal. Afterwards, I got the "wrong type of holding" warning, and each holding in the three provinces is labeled with a "recently conquered" modifier for wrong religion, wrong culture, etc. 700+. I'm currently the Petty King of Meath. As a King can only hold two Duchies without a large opinion penalty from. 700+. But you can also see there is a castle in this county: Image 3. I don't know why it's there. What you can do there is either build a new castle or find a way to inherit/revoke a vassal Baron's castle in the county, then make it the capital holding. Years later, my current king inherits the county and now I have the "Wrong type of Holding in Demesne" message. Note that this means the type of one or more of your provinces could change when you become a republic. Bedford has a castle and I'm still tribal. Any help would be appreciated. 4 coastal holdings/county. Counties can have 3 types of holdings - baronies, cities, and bishoprics. 700+. I don't understand this. I got this message when I revoked the title of major of Sigtuna (a city) from an underling. I was playing as Matilda. The plot concluded and I won the county back, but I am now getting a message that says: Wrong type of holding in demesne. A holding will receive pretty significant tax and levy penalties with the wrong type of ruler. My income in that province increased greatly. I build a fort, no problem, I then build a city and I get this message. Thank you. I build a fort, no problem, I then build a city and I get this message. So all I can build are castles (and still own them)?? So I have to give yet another holding away? Build a city of your own and give it away. Wrong Type Of Holding In Demesne Ck2. If a character is of the wrong caste, they cannot be granted the holding. Forums. . Everything I fight for goes to someone else so people have said to build your own in your own counties. I've got this notifier pop up - "Wrong type of holding in demesne". I build a fort, no problem, I then build a city and I get this message. 2 - 250 years. So all I can build are castles (and still own them)?? So I have to give yet another holding away? Build a city of your own and give it away. 25 coastal holdings/county. I don't understand this. Later you can use the character search to land people in your realm, usually nice same culture/religion people on the council of your vassals. Because whenever I assign a landed title I see. What exactly does this mean?Wrong settlement type [edit | edit source] Characters get a 75% penalty to income and levies in demesne settlements that do not match their government type. But now I see Wrong type of holding in demesne message. . . Years later, my current king inherits the county and now I have the "Wrong type of Holding in Demesne" message. Thank you. Now when I take a friend of mine from my court and attempt to grant him the county, he does not become a mayor. two) will turn into a mere 75-gold wall. . The capital of a province could change from a castle to a city in the same province if you have both in your demesne. Cities: Focus on tax. . I have all of Ireland right now (I'm also King of Eire), and I took over Gwynedd from the Petty Kingdom of Gwynedd, but now I have the wrong holding type in my demesne for some reason. The biggest penalty, though, is that you're basically spending demesne points for worthless holdings. And how I can change this. I'm currently the Petty King of Meath. What is the actual penalty for holding these?Each ruler (except nomads) has a demesne limit, and exceeding it causes a penalty to taxes and levies. The best ways to do this is to either simply revoke the baron's title (which WILL give you an opinion hit from all your other vassals, but is often still the simpler of. Ck2 Pillage Holding; Such holdings may either be counties or baronies. Some time ago - I'm not even sure it was my current ruler - I married somebody off into Bedford. ? Long story short, I was ruling as the king of Ireland but my character had terrible traits and was hated by everyone and was eventually excommunicated, making everyone hate me more. It's nice to be able to revoke the titles penalty-free when you need more holdings in your domain. Since only top holdings count towards vassal limit, it'd probably be more to be much more to be gained from only holding the top holding in terms of money, especially if there is more than one city. Mods. Just now, I finished constructing a new city in the county where my ruler resides. A separate tax rate applies to each government type. It was last updated for2. Early game they're cheap but get pricey quick. Everything I fight for goes to someone else so people have said to build your own in your own counties. Do I have to give mayorship of this town to one of my vassals? If I do that or don't what are the economic consequenses? I saved for a long time to build this town so I could bring in some more cash. (Also, max out city tax focus laws). Still super new to this game and I'm in need of some help. 25 coastal holdings/county. I guess it's because the capital is temple and I should put some bishop to rule there, right?I don't understand this. After clicking it, I get a notice saying that Wrong Type of Holding in Demesne. I just built a city in my capitol county, and it says "Holder is of wrong holding type". After I let a vassal have control of it. . No 6-holding. For example, my capital has 6 slots, all of them belong to different vassals and I don't even seem to have a claim on them (even though I'm the heir, if the current title holder dies and I get it, it will just say "wrong type of holding"). how do I change it so the county is controlled by the castle? (i know how to change the owners of the wrong demense type, but in current format I can only gove the. I build a fort, no problem, I then build a city and I get this message. I have this and I dont know how to fix it. There are three types of holdings: Baronies: Focus on troops. For example, my capital has 6 slots, all of them belong to different vassals and I don't even seem to have a claim on them (even though I'm the heir, if the current title holder dies and I get it, it will just say "wrong type of holding"). I conquered some tribal holdings in the North via holy war and, noticing the 'wrong type of holding' penalty, granted these to some of my middle sons and other relatives. . . I am the emperor of Rajastan (currently in northern India) and I built a city and a temple. Some time ago - I'm not even sure it was my current ruler - I married somebody off into Bedford. Not sure of exact percentages but you get a lot less levy and gold from them. I have looked at the titles for that county (Perfeddwlad - Wales) and I have nothing for the Major of Dendigh which the title was originally. I'm currently the Petty King of Meath. will have the -20 wrong government type opinion. So I was playing the demo earlier and an 'alert button' popped up saying that a few of my provinces were the wrong type of holding in my demesne. Each ruler (except nomads) has a demesne limit, and exceeding it causes a penalty to taxes and levies. Thank you. Jun 18, 2015 at 5:20. Empty holding slots in demesne provinces serve as grazing grounds for the nomadic population and armies. Then I noticed in my messages that this was "the wrong type of holding" for me, i. Some governments can hold different types (patricians and the byzantine / roman imperial gov can hold castles and cities while Iqta can hold castles and temples). Some time ago - I'm not even sure it was my current ruler - I married somebody off into Bedford. Settlements [edit | edit source]. They are not the right type of holding. Years later, my current king inherits the county and now I have the "Wrong type of Holding in Demesne" message. ? Long story short, I was ruling as the king of Ireland but my character had terrible traits and was hated by everyone and was eventually excommunicated, making everyone hate me more. To lift the excommunication I gifted the Pope a county (Connact) to raise his opinion of me. Still super new to this game and I'm in need of some help. . If you don't use Ironman for your current game, you can open the console by typing any of the following: On German/Nordic keyboards, this is ⇧Shift + 3 This may also be the combo of left shift and the §| key to the left of the number 1 on the number row. If you give it to a vasall you will get at least 45/50% or more percent of the base income. Side note, I'd like the ability to change a holding type in exchange of a large amount of money and the loss of intra holding "buildings". I just built a city in my capitol county, and it says "Holder is of wrong holding type". Paradox Forum. They are not the right type of holding. You lose 75% of the. I revoked it for myself and became a count worchester as I believe I am supposed to be. Tax Percentage is set by liege law. Some time ago - I'm not even sure it was my current ruler - I married somebody off into Bedford. Still super new to this game and I'm in need of some help. 28 total. So all I can build are castles (and still own them)?? So I have to give yet another holding away? Build a city of your own and give it away. Folks, another clueless newbie question: in my current game, I am getting more cash than I'm used to, so I've been improving cities in my demesne left and right. Bedford has a castle and I'm still tribal. Years later, my current king inherits the county and now I have the "Wrong type of Holding in Demesne" message. To lift the excommunication I gifted the Pope a county (Connact) to raise his opinion of me. . A character is affected by your levy and taxation laws based on their type. Ok so I'm completely new to CK2, never played the original. Currently, CK3 uses the same three holding types (for non-tribal areas) as CK2 did: castles, cities and temples, which are tied to monarchical, republican and theocratic governments respectively. 700+ gold to build it, I'll make that up. This limit is what forces rulers to distribute power to vassals rather than directly controlling their entire realm. . But I can't give it away. Years later, my current king inherits the county and now I have the "Wrong type of Holding in Demesne" message. Frustratingly, clicking on the notifier takes me to a "Realm" window which. My vassal guy Ragnvald from Ormund decided. Thank you. *Yes of course you can hold as many duchies holding as you want, and ignore the liege holds de jure duchy stuff if you want and have other bonuses to relations or a lot of dread. I have all of Ireland right now (I'm also King of Eire), and I took over Gwynedd from the Petty Kingdom of Gwynedd, but now I have the wrong holding type in my demesne for some reason. And even better, almost all of these have added some sort of hidden easter egg. Thank you. Any help would be appreciated. . Which counties do you keep for yourself and never give out to vassals in your playthroughs? I usually keep the traditional capital and all duchies/counties. I am the emperor of Rajastan (currently in northern India) and I built a city and a temple. After clicking it, I get a notice saying that Wrong Type of Holding in Demesne. To lift the excommunication I gifted the Pope a county (Connact) to raise his opinion of me. I'm playing as Castille and have conquered a couple of Sunni provinces (states?) to the south. All but 2 are coastal. . Bedford has a castle and I'm still tribal. . You can see it has a city as county capital but it's held by a duke (noble) so it's the wrong type of holding. . Level 5, cost 400, income 3. They are not the right type of holding. In a separate issue, I have towns/castles that I can't upgrade because it says I don't have Keeps II which I do have. Not sure what to do with it. But now I see Wrong type of holding in demesne message. To create the new vassal either nightclick a character and grant them the title, or click the Wrong Type of Holding Pop-Up and rightclick the Holding on the bottom left and press on Create New Vassal. This limit is what forces rulers to distribute power to vassals rather than directly controlling their entire realm. . Most characters cannot hold a city within their direct demesne without suffering. . Alternatively, if that county level title is held by a mayor, I think he. Still super new to this game and I'm in need of some help. de·mesne (dĭ-mān′, -mēn′) n. Crusader Kings 2 Wrong Type Of Holdingl crusader kings wrong holding type, crusader kings 2 wrong holding type penalty, crusader kings 3 wrong holding typeAs such, Crusader Kings ICrusader Kings II: Got "wrong type of holding" warning in Demesne. Seize the. I now get the warning/message "Wrong type of holding in Demesne"; what does that do? It doesn't say what penalties there are. Years later, my current king inherits the county and now I have the "Wrong type of Holding in Demesne" message. Any help would be appreciated. I am listed as the holder of the city of Newark, so I keep getting the "wrong type of holding" alert. Also, it can be a good idea to not grant too many holdings to one vassal. 0) They must have at least 500 gold.